tozbek From Turkey, joined Jul 2005, 107 posts, RR: 1 Posted (1 year 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 21344 times:
Today, I was on Lufthansa's LH416, the first commercial flight of Boeing 747-8 Intercontinental.
The aircraft is nearly full around 600-1000 Euros tickets economy, 3000-4000 Euros business and around 8000-10000 Euros first. With Lufthansa's 45 guests we became part of a history.
I set on the upper deck of the aircraft. The flight from Frankfurt to Washington DC took 7 hours 50 minutes. It was really silence aircraft but my screen is not working
yellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 5277 posts, RR: 2 Reply 1, posted (1 year 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 21253 times:
Quoting tozbek (Thread starter): The flight from Frankfurt to Washington DC took 7 hours 50 minutes.
Gotta love that extra 747 speed......what would it be in a 333? 8.2 hours or so?
When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No-one has ever collided with the sky.
gaystudpilot From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 425 posts, RR: 7 Reply 3, posted (1 year 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 20924 times:
ltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12365 posts, RR: 12 Reply 4, posted (1 year 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 20822 times:
The great history of the 747 continues, 45 years after the first series with the 8-i, probably for 45 more years. You were fortunate to be on that flight. I hope more are sold, not just as freighters and hopefully to some USA based airlines.
ju068 From Serbia, joined Aug 2009, 2579 posts, RR: 6 Reply 5, posted (1 year 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 20705 times:
Ahhh Lufthansa, this B748 just goes to prove what a great airline they are!! Also, I think their cabin crew are some of the best out there. Very polite, pleasant and do not smile too much (it can get annoying).
The plane looks amazing! Thank you for posting the videos.
CXB77L From Australia, joined Feb 2009, 2216 posts, RR: 4 Reply 7, posted (1 year 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 20366 times:
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Thank you for the videos. I'm quite jealous that you got to fly on it! The 747-8 really is a great looking aircraft, both inside and out. And just by the sound of the video alone, I can tell it's much, much quieter than a 744.
TJCAB From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 277 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (1 year 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 19939 times:
hello. Thanks for sharing. Have you been on the 380 yet? T/O seemed quite quet. How would you compare the sound levels, that is, if tou have flown on the 380. Engine sound reminds me a bit of the 777 on spool up..
AA94 From United States of America, joined Aug 2011, 366 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (1 year 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 19558 times:
Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 6): First Class is not that impressive, seats look narrow and little privacy.
Perhaps it appears like that, but in reality it is quite different. Each seat has a huge white privacy divider that goes up around the seat, and I only see one person utilizing it in the OP's video. Having sat in the seat today at IAD, I practically disappeared behind the divider when it was up.
Cheers,
AA94
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luv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 11957 posts, RR: 51 Reply 12, posted (1 year 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 19177 times:
Thanks for posting this, it is always a treat to read about new aircraft....
abrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 4919 posts, RR: 55 Reply 13, posted (1 year 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 18996 times:
Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 6): Thanks for the video's, First Class is not that impressive, seats look narrow and little privacy.
= Yes! It is very narrow and way too cramped ...
Quoting AA94 (Reply 11): Perhaps it appears like that, but in reality it is quite different. Each seat has a huge white privacy divider that goes up around the seat, and I only see one person utilizing it in the OP's video. Having sat in the seat today at IAD, I practically disappeared behind the divider when it was up.
Cheers,
AA94
= We will have to agree to disagree . I was on this flight ... albeit in JCL and took a walk through to F and thought it was just crowded. Also, while the J seats are a VAST improvement of LH's current 10 generation behind J class, the configuration meant you have to watch from playing footsies.
KLM777300ER From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 36 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (1 year 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 18866 times:
First class does look narrow indeed! I had the pleasure of watching you guys arrive at IAD. I snapped quite a few photos from the Main Terminal, especially of the cannon salute.
airlineanorak From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2007, 85 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (1 year 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 17814 times:
Excellent videos! Thanks for sharing them. Also, thanks for the confidence of taking the videos on board! I am very shy when it comes to taking photos....
I used to fly LH a lot long haul, but since a change in jobs, I no longer travel with them. I would like to try the new completely flat Business Class, but it looks quite 'intimate' if you don't know the other person sitting next to you?
Like the others have said, I think they could have made a lot more of their First Class. Although it's brand new, it's already behind its competitors.
Superfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 38597 posts, RR: 79 Reply 20, posted (1 year 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 17634 times:
tozbek!
This is an amazing report and you are very lucky to be on this historic flight!
I can't wait to fly on the 747-8I.
I hope to see more orders in the future.
LHPII From Croatia, joined May 2009, 179 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (1 year 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 17502 times:
First class has privacy on demand....if you wish it, raise the privacy screen, if not, enjoy the view....so in that respect much better then what other airlines offer .......sentence to fly in coffins!
AA94 From United States of America, joined Aug 2011, 366 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (1 year 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 16190 times:
Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 13): = We will have to agree to disagree . I was on this flight ... albeit in JCL and took a walk through to F and thought it was just crowded. Also, while the J seats are a VAST improvement of LH's current 10 generation behind J class, the configuration meant you have to watch from playing footsies.
Fine by me I don't fly F that often, so my opinion might be invalid when compared to other F products.
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pdxtriple7 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 695 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (1 year 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 16004 times:
Enjoyed the report! I'm tentatively booked in C on this flight in July!
ghifty From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 782 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (1 year 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 15179 times:
Quoting AA94 (Reply 11): Perhaps it appears like that, but in reality it is quite different. Each seat has a huge white privacy divider that goes up around the seat, and I only see one person utilizing it in the OP's video. Having sat in the seat today at IAD, I practically disappeared behind the divider when it was up.
The video is compressed strange.. it appears as though the image itself has been squished..
TJCAB From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 277 posts, RR: 0 Reply 27, posted (1 year 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 12002 times:
Quoting LHPII (Reply 21): First class has privacy on demand....if you wish it, raise the privacy screen, if not, enjoy the view....so in that respect much better then what other airlines offer .......sentence to fly in coffins!
LOL, well put me down as one who likes the "coffins." To me, AF first class is the worst. A continuation of the airport lounge onboard. I don't want to be seen drooling all over their plush seats.
I also find the four 747-8 GENX2Bs very noisy - much more so than the Trent1000s on the 787-8 Dreamliner.
Quoting Tomskii (Reply 19): Looks like it was quite busy in business class?
Many of those on the upper deck were invited guests and members from the media flying at company's expanse.
Much of the time was spent Media conferencing. It was interesting to see one conference by LH CEO Franz in German while the other media conferencing by Mts. Elizabeth Lund VP 747 of Boeing was done in English all that happening at the same time in the same cabin. Never saw this before and I have had my share of inaugural flights.
Dr Franz and the Mrs Boeing 747 VP Elizabeth Lund were sitting in F that made 2 guests in F while the 6 others (probably the sleepers) were paying passengers.
I tried myself for Business and even for F to no avail as many of the seats were blocked. There was only one vacant seat in Business on the return flight and I learned from the crew that it was a no-show.
I accessed the flight deck before they closed the flight in Frankfurt. The two men were senior pilots. The flight to IAD had 3 men on the flight deck - the chief of the 747 fleet and I was told by the second flight captains that they had one training pilot along so that made three men instead of two.
The welcome/pre-departure conference/ceremony was held upstairs in the gate lounge. I was there and thougth they could have made it public rather than only for some of the privileged few. There was no special food or buffet for all a la Singapore Airlines inaugurals. Lufthansa was rather skimpy even the inflight gifts were few and cheap looking.
Many of the passengers in Economy had no idea they were on a new airplane type and on an inaugural flight. They did not really seem to care. All they wanted was to get from point A to point B they did not seem to care what airline they were flying on even less what aircraft type. A lot of the little inaugural booklets and brochures were left in the seat pockets after de-boarding the plane - even more so on the return flight - same with the little gift boxes with the magnets. Many just did not care.
I have got heaps of pictures and lots to say. I am planning to do my own detailed pictures report.
Patience !
[Edited 2012-06-04 00:07:42]
There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
CXB77L From Australia, joined Feb 2009, 2216 posts, RR: 4 Reply 29, posted (1 year 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 11694 times:
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Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 29): Many of the passengers in Economy had no idea they were on a new airplane type and on an inaugural flight. They did not really seem to care. All they wanted was to get from point A to point B they did not seem to care what airline they were flying on even less what aircraft type. A lot of the little inaugural booklets and brochures were left in the seat pockets after de-boarding the plane - even more so on the return flight - same with the little gift boxes with the magnets. Many just did not care.
Did you pick them up? I'd imagine they'd fetch a bit of money on ebay I know I'd definitely want some momentos.
abrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 4919 posts, RR: 55 Reply 30, posted (1 year 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 11703 times:
Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 29): Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 13):
. I was on this flight ...
So was I (seat 22A best Y seat in the house) and I also was on the return LH419 flight (seat 40K for wing view)
= Haha. I am pretty sure I know who you are now . Pity, I did not meet a legend such as yourself.
Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 29): Many of those on the upper deck were invited guests and members from the media flying at company's expanse.
Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 29): Dr Franz and the Mrs Boeing 747 VP Elizabeth Lund were sitting in F that made 2 guests in F while the 6 others (probably the sleepers) were paying passengers.
I tried myself for Business and even for F to no avail as many of the seats were blocked. There was only one vacant seat in Business on the return flight and I learned from the crew that it was a no-show.
= I believe there were 4 F on positive space - 3 of the others were revenue and 1 award if I recall correctly. I was one of those in J complimentary ...
Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 29): The welcome/pre-departure conference/ceremony was held upstairs in the gate lounge. I was there and thougth they could have made it public rather than only for some of the privileged few. There was no special food or buffet for all a la Singapore Airlines inaugurals. Lufthansa was rather skimpy even the inflight gifts were few and cheap looking.
Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 29): A lot of the little inaugural booklets and brochures were left in the seat pockets after de-boarding the plane - even more so on the return flight - same with the little gift boxes with the magnets. Many just did not care.
= How much do you think it was because LH (sadly) made the event too inward looking? I think outside aviation people, there just was not as much fanfare.
Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 29): I have got heaps of pictures and lots to say. I am planning to do my own detailed pictures report.
Patience !
= Looking forward to it, as of course, I can't post on this one ...
MadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10350 posts, RR: 40 Reply 31, posted (1 year 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 11337 times:
Quoting CXB77L (Reply 30): Did you pick them up? I'd imagine they'd fetch a bit of money on ebay
I was sort of in a rush as I was invited upstairs to see the flight deck at the end of the flight after we got to Frankfurt and before they were closing the flight and the aircraft so I did not get extra... mostly small brochures - I had two of them signed by thee two captains! Ha!
Not sure if I want to list the spares on fleabay. Is it really the proper thing to do? If so I will have to do it before the competition comes. I will have to think about it.
I know I want to send some of the paper materials to my Airbus test pilot friends at the test flight center in Toulouse as an exchange for their kindness... and the A-350XWB coming up!!
Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 31): LH (sadly) made the event too inward looking? I think outside aviation people, there just was not as much fanfare.
Way too much so. Thinking of all the fabulous inaugurals we had with Singapore Airlines - all of the first inaugurals were absolutely incredible - Sydney, London Heathrow, Nagoya/Narita, Hong Kong, Paris, Zurich... and then the absolutely wonderful ANA 787 Dreamliner inaugural from Haneda to Frankfurt.... I can't believe such a gigantic and rich airline as Lufthansa dismissed on making this new 747-8i commercial launch a proper inaugural event!!!!
There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
stipica From Croatia, joined Feb 2011, 408 posts, RR: 8 Reply 33, posted (1 year 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 9783 times:
Hi tozbek ! ...
thanks for the videos ... super nice plane and price scale hehehe ...but this is slightly more than their normal offers ... ah LH love and hate with me ... stipica
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Is it really the proper thing to do? If so I will have to do it before the competition comes. I will have to think about it.
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