LY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 11 Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 755 times:
Quoting Cedars747 (Reply 2): Maybe the boy is the one who violated the Israeli border by mistake Wink
Quite possibly, since the actual fence does not follow the internationally recognized border. In many places it is offset several dozen meters into ISRAELI TERRITORY.
Cedars747 From Norway, joined Dec 2005, 2686 posts, RR: 23 Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 742 times:
Quoting LY744 (Reply 3): Quite possibly, since the actual fence does not follow the internationally recognized border. In many places it is offset several dozen meters into ISRAELI TERRITORY
Actually this is what LBC Chanel from Lebanon said
ME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13874 posts, RR: 28 Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 699 times:
Quoting LY744 (Reply 3): Quite possibly, since the actual fence does not follow the internationally recognized border. In many places it is offset several dozen meters into ISRAELI TERRITORY.
I in general regard the MARKED fences of borders as THE border, whenever it is known that the legal border sometimes is somewhat different. And authorities around the globe respect the fence-lines, as the other lines are practically invisible. And anyway, to cross the fence-line to capture a 15years old is rubbish --- and most probably was some kind of error.
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further sources : www.naharnet.com/domino/tn/NewsDesk....m&607BDC477FCCC75DC2257292005552CE www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edi..._id=1&categ_id=2&article_id=80128-
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and a quote :
"""" Lebanese security sources said the man was gathering scrap metal in an area near the border with Israel when he was detained. They identified him as Mahmoud Hussein Hajj, a resident of Houla. Local residents have been collecting and selling scrap metal since last summer's 34-day war between Israel and Hizbullah.(AFP) """
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THIS may well explain why the Israelis moved, as scrap-metal from a distance may look like weaponry, and fairly harmless body-movements may be mistaken for something else. Fairly obvious, and I hope the Israelis simply clarify this point accordingly .
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Beside the point that to motorbike around in such a border-area is not exactly the thing to do !
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I am fairly certain, that Israelis, UN-Indonesians and Lebanese in the meantime have "told" him about such thoughts !
Falcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 675 times:
Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 5): Lebanese security sources said the man was gathering scrap metal in an area near the border with Israel when he was detained
Kay, he was "detained", not "kidnapped", so maybe the title should be changed.
And, unlike Hamas whom you seemingly see no wrong with, this person was RELEASED in 5 HOURS. Now, how about those two Israeli soldiers tha have been held for 7 MONTHS be released?
LY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 11 Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 655 times:
I'm glad the Israelis are at least watching the border now. Letting certain Lebanese individuals loiter around the fence freely has proven to be very costly.
ME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13874 posts, RR: 28 Reply 8, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 642 times:
Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 6): he was "detained", not "kidnapped", so maybe the title should be changed.
sure, it may turn out that they got him to give him some most serious LECTURING ! I hope the Indonesians UN men and the Lebanese security men also told him a bit about what is sensible and what not. Looks like a thing about a silly teenager .
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Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 6): Hamas whom you seemingly see no wrong with, this person was RELEASED in 5 HOURS.
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A) Hamas is NOT a regular army but an irregular militia, in spite of now being in "government"
B) the Israelis did NOT want the young man, but most certainly wanted to clarify matters
C) if I was with the IDF I would NOT love to be compared with a bunch of fundamentalist zealots
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Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 6): how about those two Israeli soldiers tha have been held for 7 MONTHS be released?
unfortunately a totally different topic. We discussed about the required "cattle-trading-exercises" earlier on this forum, and so I still hope that this "trade-deal" is to come about shortly.
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now you exaggerate. The young man was NOT loitering, he was collecting scrap-metal. And THIS means lots of money for him and his family. The trouble is that he in "hot pursuit" of his task clearly overdid his matter. I am quite certain that he in future will be much more careful in pursuit of his "activity" !
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