ramprat74 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1455 posts, RR: 2 Posted (12 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 5030 times:
First off, sorry about the blurry pic. This aircraft has been sitting down at the FBO for almost a week now. After looking at the database. It looks like the Dutch have 2 KDC-10's. Both of them show with a boom. This one didn't have the boom. I didn't catch the aircraft number. Does anybody know why a Dutch transport would be sitting idle at PDX for this long?
larshjort From Denmark, joined Dec 2007, 1216 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (12 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4878 times:
Quoting 9MMPQ (Reply 1): I can't help with the why but this would be T-255, a DC-10 which operates alongside our 2 KDC-10s. Apart from the normal military missions it's also regularly used for humanitarian missions.
Didn't knew The RNLAF had a plain DC-10. I remember seeing the KDC-10's doing touch and goes in AAL a few fridays in a row. A beautiful aircraft.
The aircraft (MSN 46987, L/N255, ex United) will be sold after the cockpit upgrade of the two KDC10's has been finished. (budget cuts) and will have been active for approx. 2 years. What a terrible waste of money.
SSTeve From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 434 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (12 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4508 times:
Quoting ptrjong (Reply 8): We maken fun about American tourists who aren't sure in which country they are, but don't worry, I can't point out Wyoming on the map either
I just met a merchant mariner who was absolutely insistent that Belgium was part of the Netherlands. So, sure-- confusion. I think maybe he wanted to know what the "low countries" were, because he kept asking what "the other" constituent of the Netherlands other than Belgium was. Maybe he was looking for Luxembourg? I suggested Flanders, and I couldn't remember Wallonia. Still no idea what he was after. Amusing nonetheless.
The RNLAF has only got three DC-10s. Two tankers and a normal one for use as cargo and troop transport.
The RNLAF bought three DC-10s from Martinair. They then leased them back to Martinair for a while until the planes could be converted into tankers. During this lease period Martinair crashed PH-MBN at Faro. It took a while, but eventually it was decided to buy another DC-10, this time from United. However, due to budget cuts, it was decided that the third DC-10 would not to go for the tanker conversion. It will get the cockpit update though.
Type --------------- Serial ------- C/N -------------- Former identity
DC-10-30CF ----- (T-218) ----- 46924/218 ----- PH-MBN, Martinair - crashed at Faro
KDC-10-30F ----- T-235 ------- 46956/235 ----- PH-MBP, Martinair
DC-10-30CF ----- T-255 ------- 46987/255 ----- N1858U, United
KDC-10-30F ----- T-264 ------- 46985/264 ----- PH-MBT, Martinair
Then I worked this aircraft back in the day. Before UA converted the few DC-10-30's they had to cargo planes, they flew around the system as passenger planes. There was one 30 that already had a upper deck cargo door installed. I think UA bought this plane from World. It might of been N1857U.
747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 1783 posts, RR: 11 Reply 20, posted (12 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4261 times:
The sale, next year, of T-255 is political motivated and IMO decided by no-no's with no technical expertise at all, after completion of a totally mis-managed modification program (5+ years).
But all costs of the very expensive modification of T-255 have already been paid for. The DC10 can be operated relative cheap in military cargo-operations for at least five years, till the next HMV is due.
The other two tankers can exclusively be used for "real tanker" operations and not used for transport operations.
However, no cargo airline can and will buy T-255, with it's unique (military) cockpit layout. So the remaining value will also be very low.......................
The only possible customer could be the USAF with a fleet of 59 KC10's , with the same cockpit.
Perhaps they want it for free.
T-253 can only be sold for scrap-value and can better be kept as a spare parts provider for the whole fleet. The only costs are the parking-fees at Marana.
pdxswa From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 21 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (12 months 11 hours ago) and read 3939 times:
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To all who are interested to know as to why T-255 was actually at PDX. First off their has been a lot of speculation that it came in to PDX because it was broken. Not entirely true. It came in to pick up some UAV's to take back to the Netherlands. While it was waiting to pick up the UAV's. It broke and parts had to be flown in from the Netherlands. So while it was waiting for the UAV's it was fixed. UAV's loaded up and it left !