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NYT - Shea Stadium And The Expy Visual Approach  
User currently offlineBWI757 From Israel, joined Dec 2004, 429 posts, RR: 2
Posted (4 years 8 months 13 hours ago) and read 1672 times:

Very nice article, complete with Jepp approach plate!

With the stadium set to shut its gates for the final time — possibly Sunday, if the Mets fail to reach the playoffs — the spectators who can claim perhaps the most peculiar relationship with the ballpark may be airline pilots who, with a bird’s-eye peek at the field through cockpit windows, have participated in that uncommon convergence of baseball and aviation.

“You are so low and close you can see it and almost smell it,” said Glen Millen, who estimates that he has flown into and out of La Guardia 1,800 times since he began flying for American Airlines in 1986.


Full article here
To Pilots, Shea Is Less Ballpark Than Landmark

Side question about this:
Until the 1980s, when radios that were used in cockpits to pick up transmitters began to be phased out, some pilots would tune them to the local broadcasts of the Mets’ games during landing and take-off.

“You would dial in and you could hear your plane fly over,” said Sam Mayer, a pilot with American Airlines since 1990. “There were guys who would goose the throttles to make a louder noise so they could hear themselves on the radio.”


Doesn't that violate the "sterile cockpit" rules?

BWI757


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User currently offlineJmy007 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 591 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (4 years 8 months 13 hours ago) and read 1645 times:

Neat artical. Will the new Citi Field be used as a landmark for LGA, or is it off set enough where it won't make a diffrence like Shea?


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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 21242 posts, RR: 19
Reply 2, posted (4 years 8 months 10 hours ago) and read 1492 times:

If it's anything like what's happened in STL, this won't be a problem for a few years as there'll be a nice hole in the ground for a while. A small lake makes a perfectly nice landmark, too.


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User currently offlineYtib From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 493 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (4 years 8 months 10 hours ago) and read 1441 times:

The new stadium is right next to Shea, in the parking lot just outside of center field.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...568&spn=0.005575,0.014205&t=h&z=17

The following link shows how close together they will be to each other, which you wouldn't think would be that much of a difference in the terms of a landmark.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:YankeeSheaDay_027.jpg

User currently offlineAlberto Riva From United States of America, joined May 2002, 124 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 8 months 7 hours ago) and read 1338 times:

A story on aviation without errors or sensationalism! Very happy to see that. Wondering what will happen to Shea Stadium's parking lot, just off the subway station, under the winglet in this shot:

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Photo © Alberto Riva


It's a perfect place for taking photos. Hopefully it won't become inaccessible.

User currently offlineRwy04LGA From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2148 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (4 years 8 months 7 hours ago) and read 1318 times:

Just last week I shot a video of the Expressway approach from the Brooklyn Bridge (DIALS int)all the way to touchdown. Got a great view of both stadiums.


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User currently offlineUs330 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 3745 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (4 years 8 months 1 hour ago) and read 1130 times:



Quoting Alberto Riva (Reply 4):
It's a perfect place for taking photos. Hopefully it won't become inaccessible.

I doubt it will. Even though Citi is about 3/4 the size of Shea, they will still need the parking. Besides, the parking lot isn't affected by Citi construction.

Also, as someone who has just recently landed via the expressway visual (labor day weekend), I will echo those who have said that the destruction of Shea and the replacement by Citi will have little effect for those pilots on approach--from the Shea stands, it looks like Citi is popping out of center field.

User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 19712 posts, RR: 56
Reply 7, posted (4 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1064 times:

Here's a nice video of the last two minutes (turn your sound down):



And here's one that shows the approach a lot better (coming in from the north over the city), but not the final line-up due to the camera being a bit off-center:



Quoting BWI757 (Thread starter):
Doesn't that violate the "sterile cockpit" rules?

It might be, but that doesn't mean it hasn't been done. I've heard similar things about Candlestick Park and SFO departures.

Quoting Jmy007 (Reply 1):
Will the new Citi Field be used as a landmark for LGA, or is it off set enough where it won't make a diffrence like Shea?

No, it won't make a difference, except that the planes will be closer to the new stadium than they were to the old one.

-Mir

[Edited 2008-09-26 22:33:02]


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