AndyDTWnwa7 From United States, joined Aug 2008, 40 posts, RR: 0 Posted (2 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 4946 times:
I had posted this in a DTW thread, but thought I would create a new thread:
Heres just a dream of mine (would probably never happen, and be way to costly)
But have Amtrak extend track and create a station at the transportation center. Then pax could fly in, and than take the train to destinations such as ann arbor (and others not offered by short hop flights). They could even have a frequent user mile program with NW.
Aside from the frequent flyer miles part, do any airports offer Amtrak service, and do many pax take amtrak to the airport to get on a flight, or other way around. In other words, is it 'worth it' for amtrak or the airport/airlines?
Foxecho From United States, joined Dec 2000, 631 posts, RR: 14 Reply 1, posted (2 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 4938 times:
EWR Airport and PVD airport as far as I can remember off the top of my head...
Its an awesome idea, but for some reason this country is against Passenger train service, you can't really see any reliable passenger service outside of the NE Corridor in the US....
OzGlobal From France, joined Nov 2004, 1315 posts, RR: 2 Reply 4, posted (2 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 4908 times:
The integration of rail and air hubs of course should be a no brainer. This is not only true for city to airport connection, but even more so for regional integration. In Europe you have a large network of high speed rail plugged directly into major airports: CDG, FRA, for example. Airlines are able to codeshare eg. SNCF and Thalys with AF, CX et al; LH with Deutche Bhan, etc.
(In fact, I am writing this post from my laptop on the Thalys high speed train between Cologne and Paris which now has constant wifi internet on board at 300km/h!)
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PanAm747 From United States, joined Feb 2004, 4035 posts, RR: 6 Reply 5, posted (2 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 4908 times:
The service (almost) exists at some airports.
From DCA, get on the blue or yellow line metro and take it to Union Station.
From BWI, catch the airport shuttle to the BWI rail station. Even the metroliners stop at this station.
From EWR, take the AirTrain (inter-terminal shuttle) to the end of the line and you can get on Amtrak or New Jersey Transit to take you into Manhattan's Penn Station.
From Chicago ORD or MDW catch the blue line (from ORD) or the orange line (from MDW) into downtown (one of the loop stations, I'm not sure which), which is where Chicago's Union Station is located.
From MSP, the local transit is located right at the station. I don't know about the train station, but there's only one train going through Minnesota.
In Los Angeles, there is a shuttle that travels between the downtown Union Station and LAX. It is very popular with many travellers from southern California.
In San Diego, there's the possibility of it happening, as the train station is located downtown just like the airport. There's an MTS shuttle bus running between the airport and the train station/downtown (#992). There's also a trolley stop located at the train station for the blue line, and the orange line stop is just across the street in the Phillip's Head Screwdriver building lobby.
It works well in cities with multiple Amtrak departures, but other cities I don't think the frequency is there to make it worthwhile. I agree, however, it would be FANTASTIC to have all train stations tied in with the airports!!
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Flyf15 From United States, joined May 1999, 6069 posts, RR: 15 Reply 6, posted (2 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 4910 times:
Although not Amtrak, South Bend airport (SBN) has a rail station in the terminal for the South Shore Line... a train that goes from South Bend Airport to Gary, IN to Chicago, IL.
RL757PVD From United States, joined Dec 1999, 2890 posts, RR: 14 Reply 8, posted (2 months 4 weeks ago) and read 4865 times:
Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 2): I dont beleive its open yet. But iirc the only stations served by amtrak at airports are BWI and EWR
Correct, PVDs will open in 2 years. PVD will be the closest rail-airport link in the country, with only 1,500 ft of moving sidewalk separating the two.
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Chase From United States, joined Nov 2005, 794 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (2 months 4 weeks ago) and read 4865 times:
Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 5): From Chicago ORD or MDW catch the blue line (from ORD) or the orange line (from MDW) into downtown (one of the loop stations, I'm not sure which), which is where Chicago's Union Station is located.
Technically that would still require about a 3-block walk between the El stop and Union station, but unless you have a ridiculous amount of luggage that's pretty insignificant.
Srbmod From United States, joined Mar 2001, 13483 posts, RR: 43 Reply 10, posted (2 months 4 weeks ago) and read 4852 times:
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If they ever get around to finally building the long-gestating Multi-Modal Terminal in Downtown Atlanta, one would be able to access AMTRAK (as well as the planned commuter lines) on MARTA from ATL. The way it is now, with the AMTRAK station not being on the MARTA rail line, you have to take a bus of taxi from the nearest MARTA stations to the AMTRAK station.
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San747 From United States, joined Dec 2004, 3176 posts, RR: 7 Reply 11, posted (2 months 4 weeks ago) and read 4839 times:
Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 5): The service (almost) exists at some airports.
Don't forget BOS, where one can take the Silver Line directly to South Station or take the Blue Line and connect to the Green/Orange Line to reach North Station.
DeltAirlines From United States, joined May 1999, 6225 posts, RR: 9 Reply 14, posted (2 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4667 times:
Quoting San747 (Reply 11): Don't forget BOS, where one can take the Silver Line directly to South Station or take the Blue Line and connect to the Green/Orange Line to reach North Station.
The Silver Line isn't a train/subway (it's Bus Rapid Transit and referred to some in the Boston area as the Silver Lie since it isn't a train) and the Blue Line station is a 5 minute bus ride away. Not too fun to do mass transit from North Station to BOS (I normally just take a cab instead of taking the Orange Line to State, going through that labyrinth, then taking Blue Line to Airport, then taking a bus to the terminal) - at least South Station has the Silver Line bus that is a straight shot.
San747 From United States, joined Dec 2004, 3176 posts, RR: 7 Reply 15, posted (2 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4654 times:
Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 14):
The Silver Line isn't a train/subway (it's Bus Rapid Transit and referred to some in the Boston area as the Silver Lie since it isn't a train) and the Blue Line station is a 5 minute bus ride away. Not too fun to do mass transit from North Station to BOS (I normally just take a cab instead of taking the Orange Line to State, going through that labyrinth, then taking Blue Line to Airport, then taking a bus to the terminal) - at least South Station has the Silver Line bus that is a straight shot.
Touche I'm actually a little suprised that BOS doesn't have a direct connection to the subway. The Silver Line is an extra 20 minutes to my commute, and in my personal case, if I choose the Blue Line, I have to double connect at State and Downtown Crossing to get to the Red Line which I have to take to get home...
It's not the best system... I've left Porter Square at 1:30PM before and been late for my 3:00 shift.
Apodino From United States, joined Apr 2005, 1810 posts, RR: 5 Reply 16, posted (2 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4642 times:
Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 8): Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 2):
I dont beleive its open yet. But iirc the only stations served by amtrak at airports are BWI and EWR
Correct, PVDs will open in 2 years. PVD will be the closest rail-airport link in the country, with only 1,500 ft of moving sidewalk separating the two.
Even when it opens, Amtrak will not be serving PVD as it will likely be the MBTA.
One airport people have forgotten about is MKE. There is an Amtrak Station for the Airport with bus service. You can get it from Downtown Chicago if memory serves me correctly.
While Amtrak itself only serves a few airports, a lot of US airports do have rail links. Here is a list that I can think of.
BOS - MBTA SIlver Line to South Station, or Blue Line
DCA - MetroRail
ORD - El Blue Line
MDW - El Orange Line
JFK - Air Train to Jamaca for LIRR or Howard Beach for A train
EWR - AirTrain to Amtrak and NJ Transit
MIA - Tri Rail
FLL - Tri Rail
PBI - Tri Rail
LAX - Green Line Light Rail at Aviation station
PHL - SEPTA
SFO - BART
OAK - BART
ATL - MARTA
BWI - Amtrak and MARC, also Light Rail
Smcmac32msn From United States, joined May 2004, 1600 posts, RR: 4 Reply 17, posted (2 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4569 times:
Quoting Apodino (Reply 16): BOS - MBTA SIlver Line to South Station, or Blue Line
DCA - MetroRail
ORD - El Blue Line
MDW - El Orange Line
JFK - Air Train to Jamaca for LIRR or Howard Beach for A train
EWR - AirTrain to Amtrak and NJ Transit
MIA - Tri Rail
FLL - Tri Rail
PBI - Tri Rail
LAX - Green Line Light Rail at Aviation station
PHL - SEPTA
SFO - BART
OAK - BART
ATL - MARTA
BWI - Amtrak and MARC, also Light Rail
Add MKE into this list, as their station identifier with Amtrak is MKA. Its actually situated about a mile from the terminal, but from what I understand there is a free shuttle to and from the airport station.
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RL757PVD From United States, joined Dec 1999, 2890 posts, RR: 14 Reply 18, posted (2 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4565 times:
Quoting Apodino (Reply 16): Even when it opens, Amtrak will not be serving PVD as it will likely be the MBTA.
The agreement have all be finalized so ill have to find out the details, though i know at a minimum there will be 8 daily MBTA trains to Boston. I know they are still trying to lure Amtrak ( they have 2 years) and my guess they will be sucessful though probably just like 2-3 trains per day around peak times.
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I'm actually a little suprised that BOS doesn't have a direct connection to the subway. The Silver Line is an extra 20 minutes to my commute, and in my personal case, if I choose the Blue Line, I have to double connect at State and Downtown Crossing to get to the Red Line which I have to take to get home...