Kbdude From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 154 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5356 times:
747 BBJ floor space
787 BBJ floor space
777 BBJ floor space
Curious... 777-300ER BBJ has the same floor space as the 747-8 BBJ floor space?
Would have thought 747 would be much larger....
Dw747400 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 1244 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5344 times:
Quoting Kbdude (Reply 4): Curious... 777-300ER BBJ has the same floor space as the 747-8 BBJ floor space?
Would have thought 747 would be much larger....
SkyexRamper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5096 times:
Quoting OwlEye (Reply 6): A lot of attention for interior design but no word about the aircraft exterior. Weird.
Not really...the people buying these planes are all about the interior...thats why most airplanes have boring exteriors. It's more subtle that way, I guess.
Atmx2000 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 4576 posts, RR: 39 Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4982 times:
Quoting Dw747400 (Reply 5): I noticed that too... obviously an error.
Well, duh. I would think a 772LR has less space than a 773ER.
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Kaitak744 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2208 posts, RR: 3 Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4717 times:
Quoting BigJimFX (Reply 9): Did anyone notice that the 787-8 is the only one with a cinema room? You would think the 748 would have stuff like that.
I like that idea, having partial dual level on the aircraft.
Bohlman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3307 times:
Quoting BigJimFX (Reply 9): Did anyone notice that the 787-8 is the only one with a cinema room? You would think the 748 would have stuff like that.
I would guess that the dual level design would have to do with the possibility that you don't need the structural aid of a uniform floor with the CFRP barrels?
Just keep in mind guys that thisis just like the standard passenger configuration of any airliner that is offered. No one really uses it. Especially in this case.
One interesting observation though, has anyone noticed that for the 747-8 BBJ layout is strikingly similar to the layout for "Air Force One".
Hmmmmm..............
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Ulfinator From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 311 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2635 times:
Quoting BigJimFX (Reply 9): Did anyone notice that the 787-8 is the only one with a cinema room? You would think the 748 would have stuff like that.
I am sure if you flash enough $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ that you can get it on the 748 as well.
JayDavis From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2000 posts, RR: 17 Reply 16, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2387 times:
I had the fortunate experience to take a tour of Kingdom Holdings 747-400 while it was being given its semi-annual "warranty work" at Dallas Love Field. Plush does not even begin to describe that airplane. Unfortunately, we were not allowed to take any photos of the interior while we were on it.
Lets just say that these "examples" from the Boeing site are nice, take it up about two more notches and you'll have the interior of Kingdom Air's 747-400.............
SEPilot From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 6260 posts, RR: 39 Reply 17, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2367 times:
Quoting SkyexRamper (Reply 7): Not really...the people buying these planes are all about the interior...thats why most airplanes have boring exteriors. It's more subtle that way, I guess.
Very, very few of the operators of these aircraft want to call attention to themselves or their operations; AF-1 being one of the very few exceptions (along with some, but not all, other heads of state). Therefore most of the exteriors will be plain to the extreme.
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Mptpa From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 515 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2309 times:
Quoting Dw747400 (Reply 5): Quoting Kbdude (Reply 4):
Curious... 777-300ER BBJ has the same floor space as the 747-8 BBJ floor space?
Would have thought 747 would be much larger....
I noticed that too... obviously an error.
All the 777s show the same floor area, which is obviously wrong. Seems like they copy/pasted... and forgot to change the numbers
SEPilot From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 6260 posts, RR: 39 Reply 19, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2302 times:
One thing to remember in dreaming about these-the floor plans are just examples. The interiors will be custom made by a third party; Boeing will provide just the airframe with a bare interior. The customer will be able to get anything he wants that will fit into the airframe and not exceed weight limits.
The problem with making things foolproof is that fools are so doggone ingenious...Dan Keebler
PC12Fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2239 posts, RR: 5 Reply 20, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks ago) and read 2181 times:
Quoting SEPilot (Reply 19): The customer will be able to get anything he wants that will fit into the airframe and not exceed weight limits.
Actually, there is a set weight interior limit. Such is the case when the first BBJ's came out. There are very few BBJ's that can achieve the maximum range of 6,200 nm because most operators have exceeded the recommended interior weight to achieve the max range. Hence the extravagant interior you see on most of these types of aircraft, but lower maximum range for that particular aircraft. The owners can have they most luxurious interiors imaginable, but it's going to cost them range as long as they don't exceed the MTOW, which would be a challenge in it's own right.
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BlueSky1976 From Poland, joined Jul 2004, 1710 posts, RR: 4 Reply 21, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2036 times:
Quoting TEBguy (Reply 15): Personally, i'd sooner have the 748 BBJ. I don't think i could turn down the queen of the skies.
Naaah... 747 is ugly. I don't like anything that is moving and has two passenger decks or more (except for speedboats like the one Abramovich owns). Besides, I have a sweet spot for 777: it was the first Boeing airliner I fell in love with the second I saw it for the first time on final at EWR.
How on earth could anyone not LOVE that bird Of course the 777 is on top of my preference list as a passanger and it is on top in looks too, but from a plain beauty side the 747 is simply the queen of the skies
Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21029 posts, RR: 60 Reply 23, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1973 times:
Quoting SEPilot (Reply 19): The interiors will be custom made by a third party;
And cost as much as the jet itself in many cases. Which is wild to think about, and to me, makes no sense. There comes a point where it can't truly cost $150 million dollars to outfit the inside of a jet, no matter how extravagant, unless it's all made of gold and diamonds.
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TEBguy From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 255 posts, RR: 1 Reply 24, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1901 times:
*GASP!* ... ... I was going to argue here, but, we're all allowed our own opinions, and beauty is in the eye of the beholder, right? I also don't want to be the one responsible for turning this into a 747 vs 777 thread thingie....
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25 PC12Fan: I know what you mean. I believe it all comes down to equipment that has to be "certified" to be on board an aircraft. Take two exact coffee makers. S
26 SkyexRamper: Most of the custom jet interiors are all handy made only when you complete your design, then it takes up to 2yrs for all of it to be constructed and
27 AC77W: I think that we should get everybody on airliners.net to chip in alot of money and then buy a BBJ Could you imagine a couple hunderd a netters on one
28 DEVILFISH: It would never take off. Everybody will be demanding a cockpit seat!
29 United_Fan: I noticed the 747-8 can do LHR-SYD n/s with 100 pax. Nice,but I'de be perfectly happy with a 737-300 with winglets !
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Of course the 777 is on top of my preference list as a passanger and it is on top in looks too, but from a plain beauty side the 747 is simply the queen of the skies 
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