Anyone know why that Cessna's window is open? Is the capt just getting some fresh air before he takes off, or would their reason be something different? Being that the window is so close to the prop, isn't that a safety violation? Is there a threat of ingestion at that point?
MPDPilot From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 934 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 7840 times:
That looks like Boston so maybe not the same as PHX in the summer but in our training aircraft we keep the door open sometimes right until we are cleared for takeoff. In AZ you almost have to have something to let air in while on the ground many of the airplanes have no vent blowers so unless your in the air there is very little air movement.
It appears that the door opens after the engine so no risk of ingestion. but it does look very close to the engine, it would make me nervous
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FlyGuyClt From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 537 posts, RR: 9 Reply 3, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 7686 times:
Way back in the dark ages. I flew for an airline named Florida Express Airlines, Inc. We had this little French Captain who loved to smoke. We were zooming down the runway in SDF. I hear some language coming from the cockpit. We rotated. The wind got louder. Turns out the Captain who was famous for closing the window at the last moment could not get it shut. (He would take a puff before take off.) We circled, landed, closed the window, and was off to MCO,again. Peepie La Pue where ever you are !
The Cockpit windows is located behind the propeller, so...
If the pilot unbuckles and climbs out of the windows onto the wing. Then climbs on the top of the fuselage and forward to the tip of the nose - and then jumps to the side... then YES, there is a risk of being "chopped" by the prop.
I do not thing that a life insurance company will call that an accident.
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BDL2DCA From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 313 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 7431 times:
Mandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6178 posts, RR: 74 Reply 8, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 7231 times:
I used to do that all the time in the 402... left window open, right scoop hole open... sometimes we'd taxy left and right to "get some extra air"... but we were still sweatin' like pigs inside!!! It wouldn't be until >4000ft did we start to feel the temp drop to a comfy level!
As one of the comments in the photo comments said... "Only a 402 driver would understand"... *though it is advisable to maintain a distance behind a 737 when you're doing that!*
Mandala499
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Cadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9081 posts, RR: 34 Reply 10, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 7037 times:
Quoting Silverfox (Reply 9): Ahh,
But what is the T tail a/c behind the 737?
Its a beech 1900, Us Air express.
This is such an awesome shot, I bought a print of it from Mark at the BOS show last october. He's a great photog.
Doors open, right hand side, next stop is Springfield.
MSPGUY From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 190 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6976 times:
EMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9286 posts, RR: 13 Reply 12, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6886 times:
Quoting HPLASOps (Thread starter): Anyone know why that Cessna's window is open? Is the capt just getting some fresh air before he takes off, or would their reason be something different? Being that the window is so close to the prop, isn't that a safety violation? Is there a threat of ingestion at that point?
1) To keep the cabin and passangers cool. No ACM's or cooling packs on a Cessna 402.....
2) See above...
3) No....
4) Injested into what...? It's a piston plane, not a jet. There is no injestion danger.
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BlueShamu330s From UK - England, joined Sep 2001, 2514 posts, RR: 25 Reply 13, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6752 times:
Don't you hate it when your co-pilot has had the enchilladas...?
Shamu
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Onetogo From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 286 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2929 times:
Quoting Crogalski (Reply 19): Isn't that the whole purpose of forums, to gain further knowledge, and discuss ideas etc?
If you're bothered by the threads, I have an idea for you.. Don't respond to them.
Darrenthe747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2661 times:
Quoting Onetogo (Reply 20): Quoting Crogalski (Reply 19):
Isn't that the whole purpose of forums, to gain further knowledge, and discuss ideas etc?
If you're bothered by the threads, I have an idea for you.. Don't respond to them.
I agree. Well said, sir.
That dude has issues. It's better we don't respond to him. But I agree, you clearly suffer from a low IQ if you get really bothered and worked up by someone's questions and keep posting about them. just take a look at his posting history. It speaks for itself
Darrenthe747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 16, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2353 times:
Quoting HPLASOps (Reply 22): Thanks to all who answered my question. I have flown on B1900Ds; I knew that those aircraft do not have APUs and that the A/C kicked in once the engines got going. I was going under the assumption that Cessnas worked the same way. I also just found it to be strange that any pilot flying any aircraft would have a window or door open so close to wheels up time, thus my reason for starting the thread.
yeah when I took flight lessons in the summer my instructor would leave the door cracked right up until we were about to taxi onto the runway. It only takes a second.
Tappan From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1538 posts, RR: 46 Reply 19, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2003 times:
Hi All...
I took the photo of the Cessna 402 that started this thread...
Cape Air pilots do this sometimes in the warmer weather so that they and the passengers do not DIE of heat in the long taxi to position...This day was very hot...so...
Mark Garfinkel
SkyexRamper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 20, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1848 times:
Quoting MPDPilot (Reply 1): It appears that the door opens after the engine so no risk of ingestion. but it does look very close to the engine, it would make me nervous
It's a cessna 402, not a 737! There is nothing to worry about, especially since the captain is buckled in.
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