F9HNLPLZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 108 posts, RR: 1 Posted (8 years 1 month 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1983 times:
Hello,
I need some help out there. Can anyone tell me what the loads look like out of LAX to HNL and SFO to HNL for June 12th ? I know its early to tell, but most folks plan those types of trips way in advance. I don't want anyone getting into trouble with posting numbers so a Good, Fair, Poor, and Full will work. Any assistance provided is greatly appreciated.
Frontier Airlines, A Whole Different Animal. Maybe some day to Hawaii???
Ntspelich From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 764 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1864 times:
Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 1): I thought the first rule on Non-Rev was "Never even TRY to NonRev to Hawaii
I thought it was don't try to nonrev back from Hawaii. I know tons of folks who've been able to get there, it just takes them three or four days to get back.
United 717 heavy, you're facing the wrong way. Any chance you can powerback to get off of my deice pad?
AADC10 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 1831 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1853 times:
You can check the approximate loads by calling 1-800-UAL-LIST. You will need the employee's ID#. It is an automated system that will rate the remaining space as good, fair, or bad. For vacation areas, such as Hawaii, there are relatively few no-shows, so if it says "bad" forget it.
It is a waste of time to gauge the load until less than a week before. A plane can seem wide open, then a tour group books and the plane is full. On some international flights the plane may be half empty but they will sign a cargo contract and will not fill the seats due to weight restrictions.
Rsmith6621a From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 192 posts, RR: 2 Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1850 times:
If you are a UAL employee and offer to tell someone other than another employee the LOAD factors you are violating the companys non-disclosure policy......even stating GOOD FAIR OR BAD is included....
If you are flying on a Buddy Pass then I suggest you seek council from the one who is sponsering you for that kind of information....otherwise wait in line just like many others who will be on June 12th.
727EMflyer From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 547 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1846 times:
Summer time Hawaii flights tend to be very full. I think UA is running 3 767's and a 757 daily to/from each SFO and LAX (LAX might be 4 767's) for the summer with 1 777 to DEN and another to ORD. If the loads are right, either LAX or SFO could see an equipment upgrade. I fly UA HNL to SFO/LAX fairly often and the flights are usually pretty darned full, so unless they sneak in a fourth 763 or a 777 to california I wouldn't count on much. Your best bet is probably the latest LAX flight (UA 935).
F9hnlplz From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 108 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1821 times:
To all thanks for the information. Telling someone Good, Fair, Poor or Full does not go against the policy. If you were giving numbers then, Yes that is an issue. Thank you for the information on ATA. That might be a way to go as well. Trying to NR on Passes bought through ticketing department. It still would be nice to know though if that first flight out of SFO or LAX looks good that day. I know the SFO flt is a 777. Thank you
Frontier Airlines, A Whole Different Animal. Maybe some day to Hawaii???
Aa777jr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1786 times:
Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 1): I thought the first rule on Non-Rev was "Never even TRY to NonRev to Hawaii"
It's commandment #1 in the non-rev Bible.
Quoting Rsmith6621a (Reply 6): If you are a UAL employee and offer to tell someone other than another employee the LOAD factors you are violating the companys non-disclosure policy......even stating GOOD FAIR OR BAD is included....
Indeed. Trying to get information from anyone other than your sponsor, or if your an employee, is severely looked down on. Unfortunately, when I started non-reving I had to learn the hard way.
AADC10 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 1831 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1715 times:
Quoting Rsmith6621a (Reply 6): If you are a UAL employee and offer to tell someone other than another employee the LOAD factors you are violating the companys non-disclosure policy......even stating GOOD FAIR OR BAD is included....
Well, that is why Companions are supposed to call the UAL listing service. The telephone number and employee file number were printed on the companion certificates, back when they had them. It cannot create a new listing for companions, but it rates the loads for premium and economy seating and can make changes. Like I said, if it says "BAD" to HNL, forget it and try another day. Just get the employee's file number, since I believe they are e-certificates now.
An-225 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 3950 posts, RR: 45 Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1714 times:
Aa777jr, I don't believe you know anything about non-revving or airline industry in general. It was proven many times over. I was able to non-rev to HNL and back in first on UA 53 and 54 which were both 777s (N212UA and N211UA). You can non-rev anywhere and everywhere. Some times are just better than others. June 9th would definitely be a BAD time in my book - summertime loads are high.
Alex.
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Aloha73G From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2301 posts, RR: 5 Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1544 times:
As said before, usually getting to Hawai'i is easy, but getting FROM Hawai'i is the hard part. Make alternate plans and be flexible. Try fly on non-poular days (Saturday, Tuesday-Thursday) but in the summer its probably full most of the time.
A way to get information is to call reservations and asked how booked a flight is. All the airlines pledge (in their Cust. Svcs. pledges) to inform you if a flight is overbooked and most res agents just tell you, "199 out of 212."
-Aloha!
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SegmentKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1445 times:
I've always found it helpful to have a pass on Hawaiian that isn't restricted to point A - B flying. One time we were trying to get back to Vegas from HNL and we almost made it, but the Sacramento flight was wide open (that's normally the non-rev's "secret" way outta HNL, btw!).
Swadispatcher From United States of America, joined May 2004, 427 posts, RR: 10 Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1368 times:
Quoting SegmentKing (Reply 14): (that's normally the non-rev's "secret" way outta HNL, btw!).
Mental note made to self..
Maintain 2300 until Boiler, cleared for the VOR-A approach, report BATLE inbound..
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