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Mystery 757 "09001" All White  
User currently offlineFly-K From Germany, joined May 2000, 3120 posts, RR: 53
Posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 7447 times:
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The aircraft arrived at FRA tonight and taxied to the military ramp.
It is all white with just a 09001 marking instead of a registration.
(Photo is in the upload queue).
Any clues what it could be?

Konstantin


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User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 7288 times:

Likely another C-32 for the USAF, as an aircraft matching the same description (and markings) has been seen in the U.S. recently.

Don't know what to make of the odd (even for a USAF serial) registration number though.

LY744.


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User currently offlineNorthStarDC4M From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 2804 posts, RR: 41
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 7268 times:
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09001, sounds like a US VC-32A?


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User currently offlineJhooper From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 6195 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 7255 times:

U.S. military aircraft have only numbers in their registrations. I believe the first two digits refer to the year the aircraft was manufacturered.


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User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 7239 times:

Hmm, perhaps the USAF is trying to keep up with the non standard serials of the VC-25A's, 82-8000 and 92-9000 (originally 86-something). 09001 in that case may be 00-9001.

Jhooper, the abbreviated version on the tails of the aircraft is hard to decifer at times. If a serial is 99-1234, it may become 99234 or something of that sort (leaving a number and the dash out). And yes, the first two digits stand for the year of procurement.

LY744.


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User currently offlineBR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 7218 times:

And yes, the first two digits stand for the year of procurement.

Are you sure, Both VC-25A's were manufactured in 1989-1990, but they have 82-8000 and 92-9000.

User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 7142 times:

Again, the VC-25's are special cases as there were some issues with tradition (their predecessors, the VC-137's having been designated 62-6000 and 72-7000) which called for a change in the serial number. The first one was originally 86-8800 and the second 86-8900. The year is not necessarily the one when the a/c entered service, but rather the one in which it was ordered.


LY744.


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User currently offlineLt-AWACS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 7006 times:

that was a C-32 (no V in the designator for this one)


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User currently offlinePW100 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2002, 1981 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 6904 times:

I thought the first two digits represent the fiscal year in which the aircraft was ordered or purchased. That is the year when the serial number was given to that specific airframe.
09001 doesn't make any sense to me.

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User currently offlineAlpha From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 6856 times:

So 09001 really exists ? Wow ! I just wondered about it yesterday when I read it on http://www.aerotransport.org

There would be 9 757 in USAF, four C-32 of 89th AW and 5 other mysterious 00001, 09001, 25001 (photo on JetPhotos.Net), 86006 and 96143.

Can't wait to see your pic Fly-K !

Steph

[Edited 2003-08-17 12:48:55]

User currently offlineFly-K From Germany, joined May 2000, 3120 posts, RR: 53
Reply 10, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 6802 times:
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thanks for your expertise... the pic is still in the queue.
I just noticed that the aircraft has RR engines though...


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User currently offlineAlpha From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 6787 times:

Can't we look at your pic before it is online ?

Yes, 25001 also has RR engines, 89th AW C-32 have PW.

Steph

User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 6677 times:

Lt(Capt)-AWACS, any info on what the full serial number of that bird is? What about the others Alpha mentioned?

LY744.


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User currently offlineAlpha From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 6676 times:

Full serials, according to ATDB site, would be

00-0001
00-9001
02-5001
98-6006
99-6143

But 00-0001 is the YAL-1... So I don't know.

Steph

User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week ago) and read 6596 times:

OK, makes sense (except 00-0001). Thanks Alpha.


LY744.


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User currently offlineLt-AWACS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 9 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 6543 times:

The USAF also has the C-32B, which is used in coordination with FEMA and other gov't agencies for emergencies, they are often at Offutt AFB.
There are also some used for Combatant Commanders and other like the CFACC, and CFGCC in the Mid-East. We saw several of these in teh Mid-East over the last few months.

We had a thread on the C-32 in the Mil section some time ago.
Lots of discussion on these in this section:
http://www.airliners.net/discussions/military/read.main/14936/

The First two digits are for the Fiscal year the plane was ordered and paid for AFIAK. I know on the E-3 that is the way.

AMC aircraft often cut off the first number and don't use a dash on the serial #
i.e. 98-3455 would show 83455 on the tail.


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User currently offlineDispatch From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 9 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 6398 times:

Alpha,
do you think 00-0001 could be a misreading for 00-9001, after all the first is indeed the YAL-1.

Is anybody on this forum missing RR powered 757's at their nearby airport.
For instance, has B-27007 been spotted recently, as this is rumored to be one of those USAF mystery planes now.

Too bad the pic is still not in the DB.

Peter


User currently offlineFly-K From Germany, joined May 2000, 3120 posts, RR: 53
Reply 17, posted (9 years 9 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 6186 times:
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The photo has been rejected for "badsoft" - or for "badCIA"?  Big grin:
http://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=757_09001_2.jpg
I will try again.

Konstantin


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User currently offlineAlpha From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 6075 times:

Rejected ?? It's a scoop this photo !

Don't undestand...

Anyway, thanks Fly-K.

Steph

User currently offlineAlpha From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 6003 times:

Dispatch,

In another thread I wrote :

Second "C-32B" would be 98-6006 (scramble.nl)

98-6006 C-32B 27204/591? 486th FLTS act feb00 read as 86006, tie-up needs confirmation

But on some sites, it's listed as Far East Air Transport....


According now to ATDB website :

98-6006 = 25493/523. And last news for 27204/591 would be :

Ultimate fate obscure (USAF/CIA for special overseas operations)

27204/591 = B-27007, but =98-6006 too ? Or 98-6006 = 25493/523 ?Mysterious

Steph


[Edited 2003-08-18 19:03:13]

User currently offlineAlpha From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5898 times:

I think we can post your photo like that, it deserve it  Smile/happy/getting dizzy



Steph

User currently offlineAlpha From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5901 times:

Sorry, I forgot this fu***** add.

Steph

User currently offlineDispatch From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5870 times:

Okay Alpha,
I fully agree. But until now I have never found C-32B to be an official designation. Have you.... I would be very interested to know where.

Having said this:
27204/591 still not reported anything else but B-27007
25493/532 since 86006 reported as N757AV and N84WA
25494/611 N987AN reported as 25001, nothing else since.

Let's just say, until someone reads the plate on the L1 door, this will remain a mystery.....

KONSTANTIN
your pic, for me, is the BEST I'VE EVER SEEN ON THOSE MYSTERIOUS AIRCRAFT.
Too bad it was rejected.
I know the first thing I did was to save a copy for myself.
Let's continue to try and find out the ID's.

Peter

User currently offlineIkarus From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 3524 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 5824 times:

What's sp mysterious about the 757s? And what are they for?

User currently offlineDispatch From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 5815 times:

What's mysterious is that the serials are "NOT OFFICIALLY KNOWN". Also the type "C-32B" is unknown. Besides that, they are the first and only aircraft in the USAF inventory with ROLLS ROYCE engines (check out the pic).
Read Lt (or Capt) AWACS remarks on what they are used for.

Peter

edit:spelling error

[Edited 2003-08-18 20:19:13]

[Edited 2003-08-18 20:20:23]

25 Mandala499: Was this the plane that was forced to land in India a few months back ? Mandala499
26 Post contains images Ikarus: Oh, so they're tools of evil bought with dodgy funds.... you should have said so...
27 Dispatch: Mandala, could you give us some more on this?? Never heard the story so far. Peter
28 Post contains links and images Fly-K: I think the aircraft that Mandala mentioned was this Comco aircraft: View Large View MediumPhoto © Marlo Plate - IBERIAN SPOTTERS Dispatch, thank
29 Post contains links and images Fly-K: at last, here she is: View Large View MediumPhoto © Konstantin von Wedelstaedt
30 Vimanav: Besides that, they are the first and only aircraft in the USAF inventory with ROLLS ROYCE engines Sorry to go off the topic but did the P-51 Mustangs
31 Post contains images Dispatch: Oh come on now Vimanav , this thread is not about a big bunch of half-a-century-plus old single piston engined aircraft. This is about 757's, flying a
32 Zobatc: I know a couple of those 757s are based at McGuire AFB, NJ....I've worked them at YNG doing practice approaches, all of them I worked had the callsign
33 Lt-AWACS: Do some internet searches and look through the online Budget authorization forms, and you will see the C-32B designator. Also note the discussions we
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