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User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 57
Posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2356 times:

Guys,

A little advice on this one.

http://www.debttraders.com/ResearchItem.cfm?dvid=588

They have used my photo to illustrate something. Problem is, I cant seem to find out what kind of website it is. Seems like some kind of stockbrokers website, but I am not sure.

Second of all, I have sent them an email a week ago, but I havent had any response. Can you look for the email adress you think I should send that email? Perhaps I have chosen the wrong one.

They even misspelled my name Big grin

Thanks,

Wietse


Wietse de Graaf
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User currently offline707cmf From France, joined Mar 2002, 4885 posts, RR: 33
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2291 times:

THey have a lot of other pictures (Carlos Borda, for instance...)

Sue them  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

707

User currently offlineLHSebi From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 1049 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2296 times:

Hi Wietse,
This is from their website, so it looks like you're not far off in saying a stock trading website:

"DebtTraders is a specialist in distressed and high yield bonds globally. Through offices in all major regions of the world, we research and trade debt instruments with institutional clients, 24 hours a day."

It seems to me to be quite commercial, but I can't seem to figure out why they would use any airliner photos there. By the way, there are about 7 or 8 other EVA air photos from a.net on there too, if you just scroll down, and click on the link to the other tail numbers. Other photographers might want to have a look! Anyhow, good luck!

Sebastian


I guess that's what happens in the end, you start thinking about the beginning.
User currently offlinePUnmuth@VIE From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 4161 posts, RR: 56
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2282 times:
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Thx for the head up Wietse
Peter


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User currently offlinePH-OTO From Netherlands, joined Mar 2002, 434 posts, RR: 34
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2269 times:

Sent you an e-mail Wietse.

Martin


Look very closely between the lines of this message, and you will see the captain beating up the jumpseater
User currently offlineJan Mogren From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 2043 posts, RR: 52
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2247 times:

Tamsin has a pic there

View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © TZ Aviation




and David Unsworth has a gang of shots, and I saw Carlos Bordas shot as well.
/JM


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User currently offlineAagold From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 542 posts, RR: 52
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2206 times:
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Wietse

They've got one of mine too. Let us know if you get through to them so we can follow suit.

Art Brett

User currently offlineTappan From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1538 posts, RR: 46
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2171 times:

THIS COMPANY KNOWS ABOUT $$$$$$$
This is not a non profit or a kid's Flight Sim.....
Let 'em know we are not going to be used like they use their customers
Mark Grfinkel
P.S The CEO probably makes more $ in one year than 30 of us do.....

User currently offlineBIGDEN From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 147 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2148 times:

"class action" with combined ripped off photographers against the company should have some impact, or at least force a quick settlement. Get some input from an attorney who is a member here. GOOD LUCK!
BIGDEN


Never met a 747 I didn't like!
User currently offlineTZ From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2003, 1085 posts, RR: 54
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2149 times:
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I have been emailed twice by this company, requesting permission to reproduce other photographs on airliners.net.

Since I was unable to establish the exact nature of this company's business, I declined to grant any permission at all.

If any fellow photographers wish me to forward the name, email and telephone number of the guy at Debt Traders, just send me an email. I'm not prepared to disclose it here.

Tamsin




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User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 57
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2137 times:

Guys,

This is major. I have spotted a lot of images taken from A.net. Some have been edited (planes in a white sky), others haven't been edited. I think an inventory of all images involved could be made, but it would take A LOT of time.

Wietse

EDIT: 100 was perhaps a bit too much... lol

[Edited 2004-05-03 16:37:07]


Wietse de Graaf
User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 57
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2132 times:

If someone could try and get a username, we could log in and see the full versions of the pictures. It looks like all copyrights from A.net and the photographer are still attached to the images.


Wietse de Graaf
User currently offlineJaspike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 1 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2111 times:

I've dropped them an email. I've done what Johan has asked me to do before, and in both cases when I've done this, we got results.  Smile

Tom

User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 57
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2105 times:

Things are starting, I will let you all know how and when you can contact them.

Wietse


Wietse de Graaf
User currently offlinePUnmuth@VIE From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 4161 posts, RR: 56
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1983 times:
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Has anyone got feedback from them?
I mailed them 3 times already but no reaction.
Peter


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User currently offlineSulman From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 2028 posts, RR: 36
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1963 times:

It's a bond-trader. They deal in just about anything, aviation assets included. I'm not sure why they seem to like pictures with the aircraft stuff though...


more like polishmig29s.net am I rite
User currently offlineJaspike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 1 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1908 times:

Hi guys,
I got an email back from them earlier, all images removed from the site. They apologise for their actions. They also said that they have not used the photograph I mentioned in my email (Wietse's) in any of their electronic or hard copy publications.

Tom

User currently offlineLennymuir From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2002, 434 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1857 times:

and in both cases when I've done this, we got results.

Just removed the photographs and apologised?
That's disappointing.

What if some of the photographers wanted to belatedly have allowed permission for a payment (normally double)? Was that offered?
Looks like a very good earner has been dashed for a feeble 'sorry'.

Any more details please....

Gerry

[Edited 2004-05-06 00:34:56]

User currently offlineJaspike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 1 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (9 years 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1791 times:

If anyone does want to take this further, i.e. photographers involved, just email me.

Tom

User currently offlineLennymuir From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2002, 434 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (9 years 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1758 times:

Who are all the photographers involved? That page is down now.

I personally know DU, so I've prompted him to read this.

If you know all the guys that have been ripped, can you please e-mail them directly.
They may not be reading this.

Thanks

Gerry

[Edited 2004-05-06 11:21:11]

User currently offlineJaspike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 1 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (9 years 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1714 times:

Don't worry, I'm still investigating and I'll post again when I know more  Smile

Tom

User currently offlineJaspike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 1 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (9 years 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1687 times:

This seems to be getting quite a few views, so I'll post another update  Smile

I'll have all the images emailed to me on Tuesday, then I'll let the photographers involved know. It appears to be 104 photos in total.

Edit: the employee who uploaded the photos has now left the company. The displaying of images he uploaded was disabled as soon as I sent them the email.

Tom

[Edited 2004-05-06 22:31:10]

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